This episode kicks off season 6 of the Fixing Healthcare podcast and, this time around, cohosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr are flipping the show’s format on its head.

It begins with Dr. James Madara, CEO of the American Medical Association, the nation’s largest physician organization. Madara, now in his tenth year at the helm, shapes the AMA’s long-term strategy and chairs the AMA’s innovation arm, Health2047 Inc.

In this interview, he weighs in on the nation’s “tsunami” of chronic disease and the role doctors must play in making medicine more equitable. He talks about educating doctors for the 21st century and how AMA lobbies on behalf of its members.